trobadora: (Ya Qing)
trobadora ([personal profile] trobadora) wrote in [community profile] sid_guardian 2020-05-22 08:16 pm (UTC)

To me it seems likely that Zhu Jiu had psychopathy issues from the start, and Ye Zun only hooked into them rather than creating them wholesale.

Your view of Zhu Jiu is very close to mine! Thanks for writing all this out and expressing it better than I could.

That would have been very interesting, because his basic personality would still not be any better than what we know, even though he's be earnestly trying to do what the Envoy wanted of him.

Yes! This! I can't see him getting along well in this situation, and he would grow discontented very quickly. Because Zhu Jiu wants to be right, and be validated for it, and doesn't show any willingness to question himself at all. Ya Qing hesitates, sometimes shows kindness in unexpected places, and generally is doing what she's doing for what she thinks is the greater good. Zhu Jiu tells himself it's for the greater good because that justifies him and absolves him from having to examine himself too closely.

He didn't want to be redeemed, and I don't think it was possible for him to let go of the notions he'd seized on at Ye Zun's coaxing.

I agree that he didn't want to, but it would be really interesting to try and figure out what could get him to actually look at himself and want to be better ...

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